One of the last of it's type

"RacinBob" (racinbob)
06/28/2019 at 00:20 • Filed to: None

What’s unique (besides being a 14" rim) about this tire/wheel combination from my ‘74 Alfa Spyder compared to about any car you see on the street today?.....

DISCUSSION (38)

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 00:26

Not many 4-lug bolt patterns around these days.

facw > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 00:27

Most cars I see have the wheels held on by something other than rust?

RacinBob > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com
06/28/2019 at 00:28

True. but hardly unique...

RacinBob > facw
06/28/2019 at 00:29

Shockingly 99% rust free... try harder...

RacinBob > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 00:31

ps - and 4 x 114mm is not the answer I seek......

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 00:31

It’s not hub centric?

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 00:33

Is this one from back in the day when they did left and right handed th reads on the studs, depending on the side of the car?

RacinBob > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com
06/28/2019 at 00:41

good question that I don’t know the answer to but I assume no....

RacinBob > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
06/28/2019 at 00:42

I don’t know but it is more obvious than that......

RacinBob > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 00:44

Ps, I’ve owned the car 30+ years and I didn’t know it either.....

RacinBob > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 00:46

I’ll bet Akio Ohtori knows......

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 00:47

Are you referring to wheel bolts instead of studs and nuts?

InFierority Complex > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 00:48

No idea but I do love me some Cromodora wheels.

RacinBob > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com
06/28/2019 at 00:51

Remarkably I haven’t taken the wheels off in 30 years either so I don’t know if they are bolts or nuts. The old Phoenix Stahlflex tires wore like iron but it was time to replace them.

https://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/giulietta-giulia-1954-65/130061-cheap-tire-alert.html#post659031

RacinBob > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 00:53

PS as I recall they are nuts.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 00:57

Wait, did those still run tubes originally ?

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 00:59

195 is pretty wide for a 14" diameter.

RacinBob > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com
06/28/2019 at 01:08

WINNER!!!!!!!!

I didn’t know it either till I bought the new tires and they told me the surprise. Fortunately my mechanic friend is older than me so he knows something about tire inner tubes .....

T he rims require tubes. N o choice to run without them as there is no lip on the rim. He only found three new tubes in town, the 4th had to come by UPS.

Here’s a picture of my ‘74 Alfa from about 15 years ago. Remarkably, that is only about 100 gallons of gas ago for this car.....

Kinja'd!!!

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 01:11

Alfa still running tubes in the 70's... how very Italian of them. If the car had been from 1954 I might have suspected tubes.

RacinBob > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
06/28/2019 at 01:14

Good point, I bought it from an autocrosser and that is the size it had when I got it. I am not interested in 165/8 0/14's. The car is happy with that size so I am keeping them

InFierority Complex > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com
06/28/2019 at 01:14

I think most Alfas should have come with Pirelli Cinturato CA67s as standard from the late 60s if not sooner before moving on to CN36s . It was kind of a selling point.

RacinBob > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com
06/28/2019 at 01:23

Enjoyed the game, gotta turn in, amazingly they still pay me to go to work and it’s 12.22 central time zone....

DipodomysDeserti > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 01:23

Weird that the rims require tubes. I have the original wheels on my ‘73 CL450 but am running tubeless tires.

RacinBob > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 01:26

Ps, got the Type R off the trailer and checked it out tonight and cleaned it. Going to run it at Brainerd in 2 weeks....

RacinBob > DipodomysDeserti
06/28/2019 at 01:32

I’ve learned that when my friend the mechanic since 1970 says something you listen without questioning.....

Ps I have a CB350...... I am pretty sure it has tubes too.....

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DipodomysDeserti > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 02:09

Very true. I slide all over the place on my 450, so I might have to address the tires. My top end may just have ate shit, so I’ll have to deal with that first.

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SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 02:22

I'm intrigued not so much by their tubiness (since our 2000 Nissan Patrol ute also uses them) but by the fact they appear to have been made by Campagnolo...a company far better known for its bicycle parts.

pip bip - choose Corrour > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 06:47

metric size tyres?

Old-Busted-Hotness > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 07:04

It doesn’t have half a pound of lead clipped to the rim for balance?

RacinBob > pip bip - choose Corrour
06/28/2019 at 08:07

Luckily no.....

RacinBob > Old-Busted-Hotness
06/28/2019 at 08:10

That is an interesting question. When they went to balance them, they decided not to because the didn’t trust that they could remove the center logo to put it on the balancer without destroying it. Hopefully I can find my old bubble balancer.....

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 08:15

Is it metric?

RacinBob > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
06/28/2019 at 13:44

Sorry but no, Metrics came out in ‘76 and I don’t believe they were ever on Alfa’s

MiniGTI - now with XJ6 > RacinBob
06/28/2019 at 21:21

My 76 Triumph also runs tubes but did have radials originally.

RacinBob > MiniGTI - now with XJ6
06/29/2019 at 10:51

That’s interesting, I don’t think tubes precluded radials. As an example I seem to recall my Michelin X’s had tubes. But that was nearly 40 years ago,,,,

MiniGTI - now with XJ6 > RacinBob
06/29/2019 at 12:08

Right, the TR6 also had Michelin X-Radial redlines originally.

RacinBob > MiniGTI - now with XJ6
06/29/2019 at 19:04

did your Michelin X’s blow their sidewalls out after about 5 years?

MiniGTI - now with XJ6 > RacinBob
06/29/2019 at 22:50

I replaced them with reproductions from universal vintage tire but despite being who- knows- how- old, possibly from the 80s they actually didn’t look too bad.